tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201225084160897401.post5204891285443667573..comments2023-09-11T01:40:09.733-07:00Comments on Fab Blogsworth: Progressive GovernanceSeb Elsworthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08903528377229318743noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201225084160897401.post-35814424543161327532010-01-15T05:07:02.572-08:002010-01-15T05:07:02.572-08:00My points are usually serious but couched 'nea...My points are usually serious but couched 'neath a veneer of ridiculousness...<br /><br />This is a healthy debate that needs to be had, no question.Sir Robin Bogghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18106273485908834228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201225084160897401.post-85152482250844535382010-01-15T00:44:46.297-08:002010-01-15T00:44:46.297-08:00Robin you sound uncharacteristically serious. Is i...Robin you sound uncharacteristically serious. Is it time for a drink? Champagne naturally. <br /><br />You are quite right that we shouldn't focus on the payment side of the debate - and yes there are plenty of ways to improve governance in the sector other than seeking payment. All I am arguing is that people should be allowed to consider and discuss it as an option. Let's be pragmatic not dogmatic about governance reform.Seb Elsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08903528377229318743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201225084160897401.post-46136264792655142732010-01-14T23:42:13.719-08:002010-01-14T23:42:13.719-08:00Fab, you are so "on message" it hurts. B...Fab, you are so "on message" it hurts. Beautifully argued my good man. Hopefully people will be so dazzled they will miss the obvious fact that it isn't lack of remuneration that prevents attracting trustees or achieving good governance and that plenty of organisations are very well run under the current arrangements. I also hope that they don't point out that the two extreme examples of shocking governance you allude to are the exception rather than the rule and can be addressed in ways other than throwing money at the problem. Finally I also hope people don't make any connection between your bosses' views and lucrative paid board positions and the organisational view you espouse.<br /><br />Seek ways to review governance by all means but don't make the mistake I have and focus on the payment side of the debate.Sir Robin Bogghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18106273485908834228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201225084160897401.post-53398656357546925372010-01-14T14:18:03.664-08:002010-01-14T14:18:03.664-08:00Hey Seb,
Good argument, and well put as always. T...Hey Seb,<br /><br />Good argument, and well put as always. Though I think what Dalton may have been trying to articulate is similar to what some people said when you asked the question about remunerating trustees at the 2008 ACEVO annual conference.<br /><br />The response some members gave was that it is one of our sector's most defining features that people give up their time and expertise free of charge to good causes. Doubtless this might leave some people and skills outside the charity board room, but if a professional is not the kind of person to give up their time for a good cause, what kind of contributions would they be making to the board anyway?<br /><br />I think your ultimate point is right though. It is needless thinking that one governance model fits all; after all every governance model works on paper. It should be for charity trustees and their stakeholders to decide what model will be of most use to their beneficiaries.<br /><br />Here's to de-regulation!<br /><br />Hope you're well.<br /><br />Richard J. DoughtyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com